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Saturday, October 8, 2011


What "Work" Does Vera's Founding Narrative Perform? 

Scribbled first in my “Vera Visit” notes are the words “the narrative.” I wrote them while listening to Michael Jacobson talk about Vera’s founding, which we’ve all read about in Roberts' biography of Sturz’s life. For a moment, I couldn’t help thinking about Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man while listening to Vera’s founding myth. (I ask that everyone suspend judgment about the use of the term “myth” for a moment.) Ellison has a comical scene in the novel describing the Homeric trials and tribulations of “The Founder” as he escapes from slavery and embarks upon a dramatic odyssey across the South before finally founding the historic black college, based loosely on Tuskegee University, that the main character attends at one point in the book. Part parody of Tuskegee founder Booker T. Washington’s autobiography Up from Slavery, the founding myth is trotted out and re-enacted yearly for an audience of the college’s rich white benefactors, for whom the dramatized struggle for individual freedom, culminating in the triumphant founding of the college, facilitates their blindness to the continuing racism and racial injustice that surrounds them. What I want to take away from Ellison here is the idea that a narrative performs some kind of work. I’d like to focus this week’s blog on thinking about what kind of work Vera’s founding narrative might perform for Vera.

First, a quick word about narrative and myth: I don’t use the term “myth” to suggest that the story of Vera’s founding is somehow untrue. I use it to highlight the fact that all narrative, perhaps particularly historical narrative, is 1) necessarily incomplete—distorted by and circumscribed within language; 2) deliberately dramatized to make not only a particular point but also an interesting story based on the conventions of storytelling; and 3) subject to revision and reinterpretation across time and through retellings and rehearings.

            Jacobson naturally started out his talk (“In 1961…”) by retelling the story Vera tells about its founding, but Evan Elkin also used elements of the story to illustrate points he wanted to make in his talk. For example, in explaining to us that all demonstration projects contain within them a “theory of change,” he used an example from the founding myth: “If you let poor people go home while awaiting trial, they’ll come back to court.” The use of this example exhibits elements of pure practicality; it’s a ready-made, familiar example that makes explanation easier. But there is also drama and pathos built into the story of how Sturz and Schweitzer noticed a particular injustice—poor people who were presumed innocent lingering in squalid jails only because they could not afford bail—and did something about it—The Manhattan Bail Project. It’s a good example because it smuggles the ideals behind Vera’s work into the explanation, making their articulation unnecessary. It’s also interesting to think here about how this element, the theory of change, which someone came up with at some point after the occurrence of the events described in the founding myth, has been retrospectively inserted into the myth as a characteristic feature of what Vera does and has always done. Thus, in addition to its practical and emotional uses, Vera’s founding narrative serves to maintain a sense of continuity—even if this means slight, almost unconscious revisions to the narrative as time passes—that helps to institutionalize both Vera’s ideals and the organization itself.

            In addition to this institutionalizing work, the founding myth seems to serve as a sort of touchstone, an idealized site into which the vagaries of day-to-day operations and pressures can no longer intrude. I was somewhat astonished to hear Elkin's candid discussion of the “quick turnaround projects” that Vera does. He gave the example of “a mayor who has a year left and says he wants to do something significant and asks, ‘Can you help me cook something up?’” A project cooked up with a politician concerned about his legacy seems somewhat disjointed from ideas such as “all demonstration projects have a theory of change” and “all demonstrations projects are a piece of science.” While the demands placed upon Vera in reality by politicians and other people in government “sometimes inhibit the ability to fully develop a project and give it time to grow and then test it,” the founding myth represents a pristine place in which everything works perfectly: the injustice is noticed; the project is designed; the project has time to grow; the project is tested; the project is funded; the system becomes more just. In some way, the founding narrative must operate as a bulwark against the erosion of Vera’s ideal self and a source of inspiration, even a reminder, about what people there are doing and why.

18 comments:

Professor Reitz said...

O.k., I give up. I tried to follow the professorial protocol for the blog and wait until there were student responses, but I can't. As I think back to Orwell and ahead to the story "In a Grove" (see assignment in the top right corner of the blog) I'm delighted to see how Robert uses his reflections on the Vera visit to extend and connect so many of the questions already on the seminar table. Orwell connects clear thinking to clear language, working backwards from his language pet-peeves to illustrate much more serious political problems in the culture. But Robert's post reminds us that truth is elusive, in part because we are always constructing new meanings -- even in our old narratives (our "oft-told tales"). This is something we'll think a lot about as we discuss "In a Grove" where every character's narrative can't be true.

Every year we go to Vera and every year we hear a version of this founding story, but the story does indeed change depending on who is speaking -- and often in the conversation between the different speakers (for example, the good family story v. the bad family story I seized upon in my little English teachery way).

Christine L. said...

The visit to Vera Central was an exciting one. I was extremely interested in all the different demonstration projects that we do not discuss at the seminar. It brought attention to other projects like the Adolescent Portable Therapy Project. The project, although small, manages to make a significant change in the criminal justice system. The demonstration projects are under constant change and the very flexibility of the project is one that is destined to grow. We can see the persistent connections between the financial aspect of big businesses, government policies, and community affairs. With each project they have the main goals of solving an injustice within the society, but they never lose sight of how to protect their funding and the interests of the government. This type of connection and understanding is what makes Vera unique. Their success in making every player of the society satisfied is worth recognizing.
On the Vera website they use the phrase “System-Involved Youth” to describe the targeted youth in the Adolescent Portable Therapy Project. This connects with our discourse on language and how language shapes the way we think. Evan Elkin spoke about the misrepresentation of language when discussing the “juvenile detention centers”, and at one point he suggests that we should just call it as it is, a prison. I am in constant conflict when it comes to language. At Esperanza, we handle many legal documents when handling their education files. The IEP (Individualized Education Program) is used in the Department of Education to evaluate children with special needs. In these documents they often use terms that are not normally accepted in the society. The United States federal law states that under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) a child with a disability includes a child with speech or language impairment, mental retardation, learning disability, serious emotional disturbance, hearing impairments (including deafness), visual impairments (including blindness), etc. The categorization of these “disabilities” come with a negative connotation and is ultimately a false understanding of what is “normal”. We often struggle with finding the “correct” words to use during discussions, but on a legal and federal level we have no say in what words to use. We must categorize these children in paperwork, programs, and even separate them into classrooms. How much “freedom” do we have exercise our own definitions?
Many of the court-involved youth are misunderstood. The government does not understand the family, where they come from, their mental state, and sometimes even the countries that they come from. Many of the children might not speak English and are listed and placed in special education. Sometimes these special education programs are not even ones within the school, but rather in District 75 schools. Some of these schools are for severely mentally ill children, and graduating from these schools lets one obtain a certificate that is useless. The certificate used is not an equivalent of a GED or a high school diploma, thus it means one cannot access a job or go on to higher education with that particular degree. I was tested for “learning disability” in third grade, and I was not “mentally disabled”, English was just my second language. This is has significant impacts on how we view these individuals and directs the ultimate goals of the government. Are we locking up those that are “different”? Are we taking that next step and preventing them from the rights of the “norm”? Are we punishing them for not being born “the same”?

The “good family” and “bad family” conversation was especially captivating because of our attempt to find the ultimate answer. The answer would lie in do we trust or not trust family. This is varied on circumstances because each family is significantly different, which makes an overarching policy difficult. It would be impossible to establish a rule in which we assume the family norm and indirectly try to establish “gender roles”.

Popy Begum said...

Robert, very interesting post. I must admit, when I read the sentence, “. . . while listening to Vera’s founding myth”, I said to myself, “whoa, what is he talking about? This might be offensive to Vera.” But you explain that thought very clearly. I totally agree with your viewpoint. Stories are skillfully dramatized for the sake of convincing people of the point being made. I say skillfully because the point needs to resonate with the audience if it intends to serve a purpose. As Professor Reitz had mentioned, the truth is indeed elusive and every time the story is reiterated, newer meanings are constructed. I’ve always been skeptical about what I read, hear, or see, and I guess I’ve developed this trait as an undergraduate researcher. Overtime, research teaches you to question the reliability and validity of all sources. Professor Reitz had also mentioned how, every year the Vera founding story varies depending on who the storyteller is. Given that, I wonder to what extent are these stories valid?

Prof. Stein said...

Also unable to hold off, I will say something now-Stein lite-and return later to the blog as additional voices chime in. I am fascinated by the creation of myths and their relationship to truth. For me, this has largely played out in the arena of defenses (both legal and psychological). When I interviewed violent men about their childhoods for my book, I observed how often memory deforms truth in the service of a larger truth or necessary meaning. So, if a man must memorialize the love of his mother, the scar he has from the cigarette she extinguished on his back becomes a sign of how her discipline sought to protect him from the streets. For his attorney, the “myth” (I am using the word as Robert did, not to mean untruth but a particular elaborated truth) of the violated boy growing up to violate, becomes a talisman in the courtroom.

An interesting article about mythmaking and social justice is Spencie Love’s “Noted Physician Fatally Injured: Charles Drew and the Legend That Will Not Die” about the African American surgeon who invented a way to collect, preserve, and transport blood for transfusions. Legend had it that Drew bled to death following a car accident because the segregated southern hospital to which he was rushed would not treat/transfuse him. Despite the fact that this did not actually happen, the legend has persisted. Spencie Love traces the conflation of Drew’s death with the death of other African Americans (one in particular) who did die as a result of non-treatment in segregated hospitals. But what a useful legend! The irony of the Black man responsible for mobile blood units bleeding to death because of prejudice (and the media attention it wrought) helped change transfusion practices involving the separation of blood by race, even though it did not really happen.

The story of Vera’s founding is both a typical “great man” narrative and “great idea” narrative. (I remember how Vera’s genesis narrative almost got sidetracked by the original CJA error that recommended release for Son of Sam. I tend to think that with today’s gotcha journalism, the narrative of that failure might have subsumed the larger tale of social justice.) Perhaps the myths that live on do so because they efface a truer truth than the "real" truth does.

Gary said...

Let me start off by saying that my first visit to the Vera Center was a great experience not only because I met the director and his staff members, but most importantly I had the opportunity to learn the "real deal" of how these demonstration projects later develop into independent agencies. Like Professor Reitz mentioned, every year they would hear a different story depending on who said it, which makes me doubt. Does that mean that the purpose or mission of Vera changes according to the perspective of that person retelling the it?
I also agree with what Popy said that stories are sometimes said in way to appear good or bad, while trying to convey their point/message to the public. I would be surprised to find out if Vera is not doing its job as its founding story says on how it came about.

Cynthia Navarrete said...

Going to the Vera Justice Center was an eye opener for me. I took a bit out of everyone's speech and how they contribute to what is done at Vera. Every person that spoke linked their job to how they are there to have both sides win referring to the victim and the defendant. What was very interesting was that each one of them referred to the "victim" one way and the "criminal" another way. Each one spoke about these people in ways that would point them out or make them fell like they belong. I was amazed by the perspective on guardianship. The way Vera is assigned to a parental position in order to keep their client's assets safe. Based on how they work and reflect what their "mission" is results in the success of integrating their demos into the justice system. Questioning the reliability of a source is always neccessary because as Elkins explain, each demonstration project has to go through a process. What might look like one thing might change within two or three years. Theories help them foreshadow what one project might look like in the future. The method that is used is risky, but useful because based on a successful project, another door can be opened through the same myth or theory that they based themselves on from the beginning. As Prof. Stein spoke previously about the myth or legend about Drew and how he bled from lack of blood transfusion. The reliability may still be vague, but it created a sucessful change about the way blood transfusion were made. In the same idea, Vera creates change through the implementation of myth and theories based on how the justice system deals with certain issues now and improves or changes the idea of how the system can work better with these issues in the longrun.

Simon said...

I agree with the 3 aspects of historical narrative that Robert gives in his blog post. To add onto the statement that Professor Reitz made about Vera's founding story changing depending on who tells it, I would say that it also changes depending on who is the listener. This is similar to what Christine describes in her internship, where the way an employee would speak to a client will be different than the language used on official government documents.

In my own meeting with Evan Elkins during my summer interview for an internship location, he told me the founding story of Vera and demonstration projects in a more straightforward approach. This was most likely due to the audience being a single interviewee compared to a class of students and the limited amount of time we had during the interview. In the interview, there was less dramatization in the description of the demonstration projects. I guess people tend to make stories seem bigger than they are to a bigger or more important audience if the audience is more important.
As for what the narratives and myths do for Vera, it can clearly be used to appeal to people who don't know about what they do. I would not be surprised if they used it somehow during their fund-raising process. As shown by Professor Stein's story, the more interesting a myth is, the more likely it is to be passed around. So it also helps them spread awareness of what they do. As we all know, social networking is becoming more and more important in our times, especially for nonprofit organizations like Vera.

Timothy Fowler said...

The founding narrative

Timothy Fowler said...

During the visit at Vera it was troubling to hear the story of the elderly woman who had her property taken and was totally taken advantage of by her own family member. While I listened to Jason Hyde describe the details of the story about this "victim", (who eventually became a survivor due to the efforts of the Guardianship project) It was equally troubling to hear a tinkle of titters within the room. Although I don't know this elderly woman personally, it was quite easy to give her a face, my eighty-seven year old grandmother. As a result, any possible humor in the story was eliminated, at least for me.

Professor Reitz mentioned how stories change depending on who is speaking. I believe that to be true along with the element of perception. We can use this past holiday as an example. There are many Americans who would tell the story of Columbus, his voyage and accomplishment as the "foundation of this great nation". Others may portray Columbus as a murderer, theif and totally contrary to social justice. Pondering on the term "founding narrative" lead me to revisit the William Lynch Writings. In the writings a British slave owner in 1712 delivers his methods on not how to only control the black slaves but its ramifications that would last for three-hundred years. The methods included: using dark skin slaves against the light skin slaves, male against female and planting the seed of distrust among the black slaves while teaching them to only trust their slave owners. The letter continued, "we reversed nature by burning and pulling a civilized nigger apart and bullwhipping the other to the point of death, all in her (the black woman) presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with the male image destroyed, the ordeal caused her to move from her psychologically dependent state to a frozen, independent state. In this frozen, psychological state of independence, she will raise her male and female offspring in reversed roles. For fear of the young man's life, she will psychologically train him to be mentally weak and dependent, but physically strong. Because she has come psychologically independent, she will train her female offsprings to be psychologically independent. What have you got? You've got the nigger woman out front and the nigger man behind and scared. This is a perfect situation for sound sleep and economics". To affirm Professor Stein's point, although I believe the letter to be ficticous partialy because the date of the letter predates terminology used in the letter, I do believe the theory within the myth (I'm using the word myth to mean untrue) is very much validated and continues to be displayed within the black communities.

Getting to Robert's main focus, I believe that we all should consider ourselves as "walking narratives". We should be constantly telling a story through our efforts and the mission that we are striving to accomplish. We may have to rewrite or edit our story depending on what obstacles or challenges may arise. Actions are the best way to convince people as opposed to written literature. We should be an example and a model for the mission that we embark. I personally do not want to see my cardiologist smoking cigaretts, my dentist with rotten teeth or my assigned personal trainer unhealthy and out of shape.

I like Karen Goldstein's metaphorical usage of the terms "parent" and "children" when referring to Vera and its spinoffs. The agencies that we are interning at are all siblings and are Vera's offspring. Similar to how children grow up, go out into the world and solitify their own idenity, these spinoffs (Vera's children) eventually take on their own founding narrative. Furthermore, similar to how we mature and evolve into our own individuality yet having the morals and values that our parents instilled in us, these agencies, though having their own mission, continues to have Vera's founding narrative within them, the "theory of change".

Robert Riggs said...

I was delighted, like Professor Reitz, when I saw the journal assignment for this week. What better encapsulates the construction of “truth(s),” the problem of representation, and the “work” that narrative performs than “In a Grove”? In the story, it is used, for example, by a mother to construct a daughter’s virtue: “She is a spirited, fun-loving girl, but I am sure she has never known any man except Takehiko.” (Whether she has or not doesn’t matter; the story is true for the mother, and like other narrative, would tend to become truer with repetition.)

As for Vera’s self-narrative (I’ve realized I shouldn’t have limited the discussion to the founding narrative.), I think Christine says it all when she notes, “With each project they have the main goals of solving an injustice [straight out of Vera’s self-narrative!!], but they never lose sight of how to protect their funding and the interests of the government [head-out-of-the-clouds time!!]. My sentiments exactly, Christine. I thought Elkin’s discussion about euphemism was very interesting too, especially when he used the term “multiply-system-involved youths” without batting an eyelash; alas, none of us know how to avoid the euphemism, or even whether we should. (Check out the sign at the entrance to John Jay, by the door on the wheelchair ramp side.)

Like Poppy, I was concerned about sounding offensive by using the term “myth,” especially since Professor Stein has told (warned) us that “outsiders” might sometimes read the blog (Outsiders as in Vera people!!??). But I guess I feel like the internship part of the fellowship is where we learn the ropes, toe the line, and be good party members, and the seminar part is where we stretch our academic wings, put on our critical thinking caps, and try to figure out how the heck things work. Still, I censored myself in the original post, and I just did it in the last paragraph, which reminds me: If we have time in class on Thursday, I’ll tell you guys a Vera story that I’d NEVER write in the blog.

And Poppy, your connection of questioning validity and reliability of sources in research with our discussion about narrative is fascinating. We question sources, in one sense, because people have agendas. We want to know that the study extolling the virtues of the new pill was not funded by the pharmaceutical company. As this questioning suggests, science, like narrative, can perform a definite function, so we have to be careful. This reminds me of Emily Martin’s great essay, “The Egg and the Sperm: How Science Has Constructed a Romance Based on Stereotypical Male-Female Roles.” In keeping somewhat with this science/narrative theme, Cynthia seems to equate “theory” and “narrative,” in a very interesting way. Like narrative, theory is explanation. And as Cynthia says, theories perform “work” too: “Theories help them foreshadow what one project might look like in the future.”

Robert Riggs said...

Professor Stein’s reflection about narrative in her own research is really intriguing to me. On the one hand, the narrative in these cases does the work of making bearable the unbearable and “becomes a talisman in the courtroom,” but on the other, the authors of the narratives have engaged in violence. What role does the evasion of the unbearable through narrative play in the violence itself? Is this some of the “work” the narratives do in these cases? Interestingly, a scholar named Shadd Maruna has conducted research on people who have gotten out of prison and gone on to lead productive lives free of crime. He finds that those who do well are those who are able to author self-narratives in which they figure out how to make sense of their crimes and still construct themselves as good people. The book is called Making Good.

Gary points out that that thinking closely about narrative can cause doubt. That’s true, but I think the larger point is that all we have is narrative. We represent the past by telling stories because that’s what we do, and stories are necessarily incomplete and told from a particular perspective. We can’t represent The Truth. Even a photograph of last summer’s vacation is not last summer’s vacation; it’s not even the moment “captured” in the frame. It’s just an image of the ingredients for a story we might tell about that moment, something to jog our memory, which we haven’t even touched upon—memory, that is. For me, it’s not about whether Vera’s narrative is true or not. That’s why I was thinking about it in terms of the “work” it might perform. Simon brings up another important issue we didn’t really address: the audience. As he points out, narratives change depending on who’s listening.

Like Timothy, I was uncomfortable with the uncomfortable laughs during the story of the woman whose family took advantage of her. It just occurred to me that Jason Hyde skillfully used narrative to explain his agency’s work to us. I bet none of us left there thinking that work wasn’t important. Yet another good example to add to Professor Stein’s and Timothy’s of how narrative can be used to great effect. As for actions speaking louder than words, they undoubtedly do, but they don’t last. Words speak longer than actions. I gave a homeless man some change yesterday. It’s over, but telling you about it now is a way for me to give it new life. I have to do it this way since I can’t afford to give change all the time.

Ruby A. said...

My first visit to Vera and hearing first hand from the experts what Vera does as a whole was both intriguing and enlightening. Once again I am humbled by the dedication and love that the people of Vera put into their projects which in turn more often than not, ends up being just what 'OUR' community needed. Thank You VERA for all that you do.

Prof. Stein said...

Where to begin?

Robert is teasing us with a story that he claims he would NEVER tell in the blog. Now that is a fine example of setting up a compelling tale. I have not even heard it yet and already I find it irresistible and oh, so believable. Otherwise, why would Robert hide it from Vera “outsiders”? (Another interesting point made there, Robert, about narrative as a performance crafted for a particular audience. Even what you leave out is saying something.)

To answer your point about what narrative construction has to do with violent crime, I would say: an awful lot. So, for example, it is common to hear men who molest young children claim to have been seduced by them or say that own their sexual attention towards a young child indicated love. In such cases, I have often found it to be the case that the offender was himself molested in childhood but had produced a narrative that allowed him to maintain autonomy and masculinity by saying that, indeed, he had been the seducer of an adult or that sex had been part of a loving relationship. I am not talking about teenagers here but men who were molested at 4, 5, or 6 years of age. Shaun Maruna’s work has definitely highlighted the importance of creating secular “redemption” narratives (hence the popularity of getting born again while in prison.) I would stress how important it is to get rid of old narratives in order to have the space to create new ones.

Simon says that it is also about who is doing the listening. This underlines the biases we bring to a story regardless of the story itself. As Tim brought up the Columbus Day parade, I cannot help but share that I happened to be trying to cut across 5th Avenue the day of the festivities. I have for so long thought about the discovery of America in conjunction with the genocide of Native American culture that I did not even get angry at the parade; I literally had imagined that the parade had been discontinued years ago because everyone “knows” that you shouldn’t celebrate such tragedy. I stood there sort of astounded that there was a parade at all. Not because I believed there shouldn’t be one but because I believed that everyone (in New York at least) had already formally agreed with me! Such is the power of narrative: we can brainwash even ourselves.

Dani said...

The good family vs the bad family is also what stood out while at the Vera Conference. I couldn't help but also think that this is how the public and government system operate in the same. The Good vs Bad...choices, opinions, people. The problem, like Professor Reitz, said that the story does change depending on who tells it. Depending on the person, it can completely change from good to bad or vice versa. How do we choose or assume what part is good?
I also loved how the vice president had made a little comment/joke that they couldn't wait for the Guardian Program to spin off already. It's interesting that they give these programs all their energy, money and time and then can't wait to push them off. It really is like a complete parent-child relationship.

Professor Reitz said...

Re Professor Stein's point that we need to get rid of old narratives to have space to create new ones. I was driving in Eastchester yesterday and saw that on either side of the white lines painted in the road, red and green ones had been newly painted to celebrate Columbus Day. Presumably those aren't the international colors for celebrating genocide. The narrative of Columbus has now been reimagined/redeployed to celebrate Italian heritage.

Re the parent/child image for Vera. Keeping Orwell ever before us, and his point that our language choices can begin to think our thoughts for us, it is interesting to reflect on what the parent/child characterization does. It obviously seems fitting in many ways. But it also builds in a lot of assumptions that we don't examine because we've already used the words. For example, if Vera is a parent and the spinoffs are her children, then Vera is 1) a mother, with all the baggage that comes with OR a father, with all the baggage that comes with; 2) children can be good children, making something of themselves in the world or bad children, who fail and have to come live at home. Or neither good, nor bad, but always children, tied to the parent with the responsibilities/obligations that label comes with. It makes Vera seem "fully formed" -- an adult -- when maybe it might suit the purposes of an innovator/incubator to be young, risky, still in a process of self-discovery. If Vera is the parent, but also risky, then it is an adult in a mid-life crisis. So you see how just a familiar image (parent/child) can be at once a simple, logical characterization and be full of so many different narratives that are all important to be examined. Orwell would very much want us to think of all these embedded narratives before we rely on this characterization. And of course we must always do what Orwell says.

Timothy Fowler said...

Yes, spoken words and written literature lasts for ages. No argument there. But what about "works" (actions)? I believe that just like wealth, poverty is passed down from generation to generation. If we're successful at our work, helping to put an individual in a social class and position of greater opportunity, is it possible that the effects will not only change the life of this one person, but his/her success may have long lasting effects that may trickle down within the family for generations to come?

Professor Reitz said...

Re Timothy's point about individual changes being passed down. My dad was the first person in his family to go to college and he has two daughters who are both college professors. I'm not sure what the data is, but I always hear that that is a huge marker of changing someone's socio-economic position. If you go to college it is almost certain that your offspring will go. Certainly has been true in my family.

Roberto Celestin said...

This is also somewhat true in my family. My father was the first of nineteen siblings to graduate college. This led him to encourage my mother to go to college to only surpass him to get her masters. Now he has two sons who are both in college. So college is certainly a factor when one is trying to change their socio-economic status.

The visit to Vera's headquarters for me was truly enlightening. It was great to hear the honesty that everything will not always work. This is a great because it shows the reality that no matter how good something sounds there is still a possibility that it simply will not work.



Despite hearing and even hearing the founding of Vera and its impact on social justice many times, it seems as if there's always something new added. The beautiful thing about narratives is that it occurs in a cause and effect relationship. I like to think of it as a narrative butterfly effect. A good example of this is sometimes when in certain classes a professor may put emphasis on certain words for many different reasons. The cause could have been to wake up he/she bored students, to let her students know that what she is saying is very important and it may be on the up and coming exam, or even to speak over outside commotion. The smallest thing could change how a person relay a message or even what they are saying.

Narratives are used for different reasons sometimes for reasons which are clear to us and other reasons which are not as clear. But at the end of the day it is up to how the audience which is receiving this message translate it.