Welcome to the class blog! The John Jay - Vera Fellows Program is a collaborative effort between John Jay College and the spin-off agencies of the Vera Institute of Justice, combining an internship and participation in a seminar taught by faculty from John Jay's Interdisciplinary Studies Program. (To see a video about the John Jay - Vera Fellows Program, click here.) Part of the seminar experience is weekly participation in the class blog, which keeps the conversation going from week to week and will be a place for you to share your thoughts and concerns about the materials discussed in seminar as well as the internship experience. The opinions expressed on this blog do not necessarily reflect the views of the Vera Institute of Justice or its spin-off organizations. While the blog is open to the public and anyone, theoretically, can comment, only class members and invited guests will be able to post. You can also look for us on our student and alumni page on Facebook.
Each student has been assigned one week to write the "post." Please post within 24 hours after class. Every week, each student must comment on the post (feel free to comment more than once). Please comment by Monday afternoon to allow time for further questions and responses and so that we can read all the entries before class.

Monday, August 30, 2010

CJA

Reports

Week 1

Never once did I think I would hear the words "I'm going to take him down to Central Bookings" in a positive light. Nevertheless, my first day interning at CJA I heard my Vera mentor say those exact words to another one of my supervisors, referring to me, and I had to stifle a chuckle for the sake of professionalism; as my first day moved along I discovered work in the CJA wheeled along precisely because of such minor instances of humor. This is, in my opinion, rooted directly in the circumstances in which the work is done.

Having seen a Law and Order episode or any cop film, the expectations of any interview, or more likely and interogation, takes place within a blocked off "sound proof" room with a see through mirror. CJA has no such luxury. Due to time constraints rooted in the need to interview arrestees before they see a judge, the interviews take place within a concrete cubicle directly within Central Bookings, side by side with the Officer's desks.

Well protected and ventilated, the cubicle, which has been given numerous nicknames, can put unsuspecting people on edge. Though I presume it is the Bookings building itself, equipped with multiple holding cells, a plethora of prisoners as well as a steady in-moving stream of the arrested, which is to blame. The Bail Expiditing office, located across the street from Central Bookings, on top of the court rooms which try the defendants recently interviewed, sends it's workers through similar conditions: makeshift holding cells filled with those just previously in Central Bookings, to deliver paperwork so as to hold people bailed out before they are sent off to jail. 

This sort of on-edge atmosphere breeds a perpetually developing humor which permeates throughout the staff of CJA. Just as any difficult workplace breeds a more tightly woven comradery then a laid-back workplace, the interviewers and supervisors within CJA exchange as many nicknames as they do papers. And overall, despite the unexpected working conditions, the stressed detainees and pressured atmosphere, CJA is fast paced and a very welcoming place of which I am excited to be a part of. 

Week 2

The second week here at Vera brought me face to face with what I hope is not my future. Allow to explain, as the aformentioned statement sounds like a terrible phrase, however, in reality is merely a motivating realization I am glad to have experienced. 

I hope to one day become a lawyer. Despite the fact I am sure of what I desire my career to be, I am still unsure of which field of law I would like to practice. Due to a lack of direct contact with the field, and also due to the oversimplification and glorification of, as well as the illusions associated with, a career as a lawyer I could not with certainty say to myself: "This is exacty what I want to do every day".

What I was more aware of is in which fields I did not want to practice. Divorce law was almost certainly not what I wanted to be practicing, it is too much like being a psychiatrist to the miserable. Constitutional law is a possibility, if I find that I enjoy theoretical application of my knowledge, but as of now I doubt that since I would love to actually fight cases in court.

Realistically I was expecting to go into some sort of corporate or criminal litigation. The beginning of most criminal litigation careers start in the criminal courts as public defenders. And it was these defenders that I was able to see in action while working with CJA.  As I stated before, after seeing them I am not in any way closer to deciding that criminal litigation in the arraignment process is for me.

Allbeit, I found it very interesting and I have the utmost respect for them. The arguments presented were tactful and intelligent. The only thing that I did not enjoy was the rushed atmosphere of the cases. The lawyers had to work like machine guns: defendant after defendant, five minute cases and only a handfull of words to influence a decision. It was certainly impressive, however very far from any sort of intellectual debate I am striving to experience as a lawyer. 

The Bail Expedition program in which I am currently working spends much time sitting in on these cases I have just described and attempt to aid anyone whose bail has been set within the qualifying range. If the person qualifies, then BEX attempts to contact whoever the defendant recommends, while delaying the defendant's transfer to Rikers Island, in which their release becomes very tangled. 

I'm glad to give a helping hand to such a process, as I have heard many instances of a missed bail payment and the misadventure that ensues for the bailer and bailee. But so far, I am more appreciative of the insight BEX has given ne into the intricacies of criminal law processes. 

14 comments:

Professor Reitz said...

Hello Verons,

It's 10 pm Monday night. Do you know where your comments are?

I know the post was delayed getting up, but it's up now so please comment on any aspect of Alex's post that resonates with your experience/concerns.

Let me know asap if you have any trouble getting on the blog.

good luck!

Anonymous said...

Alex, based on your written, detailed observations and corresponding feedback, I think that you are doing a good job remaining grounded in such a fast-paced agency as CJA. Even though I have never had the opportunity to see, first-hand, the actual workings of criminal litigation in the arraignment process, your vivid journal entries have helped me to imagine and begin to understand what actually takes place.

There are two questions I would like to ask you: In your journal entry for week two (2), paragraph five (5), you mention that you did not enjoy "the rushed atmosphere" generated from continuous situations such as "five minute cases" and the fact that "the lawyers had to work like machine guns." How did you initially envision the daily life in the career of a litigator would be? Also, how did you envision the arraignment process to be, that is, did you expect it to be less fast-paced, more personal, or different in other respects?

Jessica Rivera said...

Alex, not only am I impressed by your extensive and very clear outline of your experience in CJA so far; but being that so many of our fellow classmates are just beginning there internships, you seem to be far ahead. After reading your experience at CJA, not only did you make me feel like I could see how Central Bookings looked like in reality, but you made a very clear statement about reality and illusion.

For example, when you stated that the episodes of Law and Order one would watch differed from the working place you were at, you explained that what one saw on TV wasn't what you would receive/ expect in the criminal justice system.

While TV shows display a picture perfect place for lawyers and witnesses to do what they have to, you showed our classmates that TV and reality are always different because TV shows of the criminal justice system is only there to entertain the population, but not meant to educate them of what the real system is about. Instead the entertainment industry chooses to give its general audience a disillusioned picture of the truth.

Moreover, I am happy to know that this experience for you so far has opened your eyes to see which routes of law you would not be interested in being apart of, due to what you've seen so far. However, my only advice there is, don't take what you see so far as the actual experience these lawyers go through on an everyday bases, take this time to see how you can help and or better CJA. Sometimes what we think is unappealing and or hectic through a rushed atmosphere may end up in the end being something we like that we never knew and or be something we grow from.

Before I wrap it up, my only question to you is, before you started your first day at CJA, what did you expect you'd be doing as an intern? And, how does your experience now differ from what you expected when first placed at CJA?

In all, I am happy to see that your internship is making you see how the bail system works as well as, helping you understand where your true passion in law could and or may be, elsewhere.

Christina G. said...

First, I would say that I greatly appreciate the enthusiasm and dedication that you have demonstrated by beginning your internship several weeks prior to the start of classes. This shows how passionate you are about your goals, or perhaps just that your agency was ready to immerse you in their work before you were fully prepared. Either way, I think that your first impressions would be the same regardless of the circumstances. As you and Jessica have stated, the perception of the criminal justice system that the media portrays is completely different from realistic agencies that we so graciously have the privilege to be a part of. The experience that you have had is all the more reason why internships should be a necessary part of obtaining a degree in any field of study, because as Herb Sturz has clearly stated, we learn by doing. I feel that much of the information that our culture receives is from media and third party sources, and to have first-hand experiences in different situations really opens our eyes to things that we never knew, or never wanted to know. The thing that intrigues me most, and perhaps Jamie as well, is how you describe the lawyers having to work like machine guns. Some of these people are charged with only minor offenses, however some of the accused are facing serious consequences and to know that their future depends on a mere five minutes that he or she has to speak to their attorney, in a noisy overcrowded room, just minutes prior to seeing the judge is alarming. I am glad that you too see some issues with this matter, and I hope that with the knowledge that we earn through our degrees and this seminar in conjunction with our internships, that we might be able to one day change this sad reality. Until then, I am glad that in the short amount of time that you have spent with your agency you have expanded your knowledge of the inner workings of central bookings, and have already begun to reshape your career path, although seemingly confusing at this point, will be much more focused as time progresses.

Prof. Stein said...

Like Jamie and Christina, I was also struck by the image of "justice" being dispensed like machine gun fire; we can only imagine its indiscriminate nature and the collateral damage it wreaks. CJA, as an internship, leaves many such searing images. Our fellow last year related how she watched lawyers and clients entering the building through separate metal detectors and realized that the visual she got-the defendants almost all people of color and the lawyers almost all white-imparted knowledge of the system more powerful than any corrections text she had read.

I was also interested in Alex’s observation about the camaraderie, and humor, that staff relies upon to relieve the stress of working in such conditions, where humanity takes a back seat to bureaucracy. How, I wonder, might we maintain a view that doesn’t sacrifice the kinds of details that infuse a humanistic reading of the situation (like the ones that Alex, in his newness, notices) rather than dissociating them because the cost of vision is to slow, or even halt, the bureaucratic process and risk being less efficient at your task?

For those of you who have already begun your internships, what awful thing are you noticing now that you imagine will become routine and overlooked over time? For those who have not yet started, it would be interesting to write down your expectations and see how they differ from reality, in this regard. For everyone, how can we stay appropriately horrified when horror becomes quotidian reality, as it always does in the criminal and social justice business?

Katie Spoerer said...

Before I jump into commenting on Alex's post, I wanted to share with everyone what I saw the other day. In class we talked about how Herb Sturz was everywhere and as I was leaving North Hall the other day I saw a young lady cleaning the windows. To my delight she was wearing a CEO vest! I thought that was really cool.

Onto Alex's post. I think you did a great job of describing what your surrounds are like when you are at your internship. I could vividly picture you standing in the midst of everything soaking it in. I also am glad that you shared your experience with us because I have never had that experience, so I can (for now anyway) live vicariously through you. As I was reading what you wrote I felt really tense. The fast pace, running around of people, and somewhat chaos seems extremely intense. I can not begin to imagine what it must be like not only for the litigators who work there but for those who are facing criminal charges.

I find it extremely fascinating to compare what is highlighted in television shows as the norm in places like central bookings. People are extremely mislead by what they experience in Law and Order from what you are sharing with us.


I too am interested in law school one day and it troubles me to hear that those who are facing criminal charges that which could have an extreme impact on their future, are only receiving "five minute cases and only a handful of words to influence a decision".

Overall, your experience excites me and I can not wait to hear more from you throughout the semester.

Alisse Waterston said...

Good morning all. I have been putting off adding my comment, waiting until all student members of the seminar have posted. Where are those of you who haven't yet blogged???

I echo everyone's enthusiastic response to Alex who wrote such a vivid and insightful description of his first days at central booking. I hope everyone else will take Alex's lead and keep a journal about what you see, hear, smell, and feel, and about your interactions during the course of your internship experience. It's great practice in "participant observation" and the taking of fieldnotes--the research process in Anthropology! By taking fieldnotes, you can start to see patterns, tease out themes, generate insight about how the system works (and doesn't), what happens to whom, how people respond to different circumstances in which they find themselves, what people do in their own interests (or what they perceive to be their interests). Don't be concerned if your internship site is not as exotic as Alex's since each place has its own system, organization, history, tenor, and story.

Several folks commented on Alex's references to humor. Actually, that part confused me a little bit. I didn't quite understand how humor was deployed and by whom--I didn't get a full sense of the humor. Perhaps specific examples would have helped me get a deeper sense of that aspect.

For everyone: please remember to copy-edit your entries (the blogger and the commentators)!

joseph said...

It looks like you set the bar for all of us to follow in our internship experiences and blog posts. It is impressive how much you’ve observed in these few short weeks.

The second paragraph of your blog is a good lesson that we all can follow. Often we expect something to be a certain way even before we get involved in that particular situation. Television taught you what the interview and interrogation process was suppose to look like, but when you actually got into the process you found out the setting was different as well as the atmosphere of the people around you.

It is understandable that in such a high stress environment that people use humor to release their anxiety. Stress also fused a “comradely,” as well as, you pointed out in your fourth paragraph.

The aspect of your blog which stuck most with me and was a bit disconcerting was the part where you described the “rushed atmosphere of the cases” which “lawyers had to work like machine guns.” You mentioned in the blog that you did not like that part either and I was wondering if you had thought about that process as I am doing. It seems that, while there are hundreds of cases to get through as I assume, are we trading quantity over quality? Did some how the criminal justice systems transform into a business to shell out the most cases, rather than a system to aid the innocent, punish the guilty, and restore order in the midst of chaos. That was my expectation of the criminal justice system.

Professor Reitz said...

This is Jose's comment:

The fall 2010 semester at John Jay College of Criminal Justice started, and WE the new Vera Fellowship Members started looking to a bright year full of new ideas and education in many different programs through the Vera Fellowship Program, by Dr. Abby Stein, Associate Professor Department of Anthropology & Interdisciplinary Studies Program. Our first meeting was August 26, 2010. Wow!, what a great class we have for the upcoming year 2010-2011. All of the Vera Fellowship members are going to be involved in different programs in New York City to assist those in need of a helping hand.

I will be meeting for the first time with my mentor, Ms. Rachel Pollack on September 02, at the Job Path Organization. Job Path is an organization that supports individuals with developmental disabilities and makes sure they make good decisions. According to Job Path, they began their organization as a small pilot project in 1978, with 10 individuals; 5 people were placed at a job site, then Chemical Bank (presently JP Morgan Chase), and 5 people were placed at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. At the end of the ten-week pilot, five of those people were hired at their work sites. Job Path has placed more than 2,000 people in jobs where they work alongside people without disabilities. During the 1980s, Job Path successfully changed many federal and state policies, encouraging the use of supported work in the United States of America.” We always can make a difference, they did it, and so why can we?

I will keep you posted every week of what I have learned and how you and I we can make a different for others in our nation. See you next week!

Jose Rosario / Senior

Professor Reitz said...

This is my comment...

which is not really a new idea but just underscoring an idea already raised. What an unusual opportunity (gift, really) to be completely new somewhere/at something. This is one of the reasons why I like to go somewhere new for trips. I love that feeling of being reacquainted with the act of perception(when you do something over and over again, as many of you suggested, you stop really perceiving it). So much (maybe all) of our reality is shaped by our perceptions and yet we so seldom subject our perceptions to the kind of analysis that Alex has done -- and that you all can do as you have your first experiences this week.
My niece has just started her first week of college and I've been thinking about my first days at things, most of which I remember vividly. These kinds of first experiences are your self's way of telling yourself who and what you are at that exact moment. It may not always be comfortable, or even clear, but it is always true. So take advantage of the insight that this newness brings.

Alisse Waterston said...

Nice message, Professor Reitz. I am going to keep what you wrote in mind when I move into new experiences myself. There's something very poetic in the way you describe that shift in perspective and awareness.

Chad Infante said...

I must commend Alex on his keen observations and riveting descriptions. His observations, like any well written novel, transported me to Central Booking and provided for me the necessary information to understand and imagine the atmosphere and processes that occur at Central Booking.

It is empirically true that many of our ideas about how the justice system and government as a whole works is always false in nature, falsities perpetuated by the media and the state itself to give people the idea that “everything is ok with the systems of government.” But the speed at which justice is dispensed, as Alex describes it, is a symptom of many things. I believe that two very important things that influence the high speed nature of justice is the growing rate of the population and those who commit crime along with the governments—justified or not justified, it is debatable—need to punish for small offenses. But also very important is the economic and historical and racial issues that surround and pervades the justice system. Most of us forget that there are many private institutions that benefit from people going to prison—a profit makings system that seems to add to the statistics of America as a nation that imprisons its population, particularly its minority population. Whether or not these problems are actively created or is simply a byproduct of America’s history is a question that we can discuss in class.
Chad Out!

Jose Rosario said...

Good job Alex. I can see you are learning new stuff that a college cannot offer you. In addition, I believe is good to learn a little bit of everything in these seminars and later in life you can use it for your own benefit, even to help others.
You said, “Divorce law was almost certainly not what I wanted to be practicing, it is too much like being a psychiatrist to the miserable.” What would happen if you got a job working in a law firm, your boss says to you, “here is your first case”, and then you see is a divorce case, what would you do?
Do not close the doors you never know. In addition, why are you not interested in criminal litigation in the arraignment process?

Nadiya said...

I share the excitement of my fellow Vera scholar and happy for his experiences in the CJA. After the meeting with my mentor Thomas Giovanni, I have discovered that our agencies (mine is the NDS) are working close but separate in the court. While the CJA is working on the suspects’ bail, the NDS public defenders work on their release.
After having met my mentor, and being introduced to the key people in the NDS, I have experienced similar to Alex’s feelings. Additionally, I expect to get similar work experience. As Alex, I hope to get numerous experiences from this internship. I will be working in the court (Downtown Manhattan) in the midst of the public defenders work.
Being the part of the NDS for the following academic year, I want to participate in three projects my agency is currently working on. The first one is The Fatherhood Program that helps the released from the jail fathers reunite with their families. I was astounded by the fact that the NDS created a group therapy session for those ex-offenders. Having my BA in Psychology from Kyiv National Linguistic University, I am interested in the specifics of those group sessions. The second most appealing project for me is the Immigration Services Project that deals with those offenders who have any kind of immigration status in the country. And the last but not least area of my interest is the Youth Law Project. The NDS represents children from 7 to 16 who are criminally accused. Additionally, the Youth Law Project helps teenagers return to school and prepares them to take their GED tests.
The agency has two teams; each consists of 6-7 lawyers, a social worker, a legal representative, and an investigator. All of the team members cooperate in order to defend the offender. They use an individual approach to each culprit. They even had a Spanish-speaking team that was able to approach the needs of the Spanish-speaking offenders.
From the variety of the opportunities that are offered for me during my internship in the NDS, I want to choose one and make in the path I am going to pursuit throughout my entire life. I hope the rest of Vera agencies will help to make their choices for my fellow scholars.