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Sunday, March 7, 2010

budget season

Had a wonderful time with y'all last week. Thanks for inviting me.

Since then, my journey from the warm, safe environment of the classroom led to an afternoon finishing up our plan for advocacy day in Albany on March 18th and trying to work out how the most recent havoc in the statehouse might impact our budget. Meanwhile, there are applications to make to city council for discretionary funds, grants to write, relationships to build and maintain, a press release i'm burning to get out, and Oh Dear, an event to plan.

I think here, in my 30s, is where i've really started to think about work as a career, and mostly the reasons have to do with personality (never was a careerist); but a contributing factor is the reality of this planet-like-in-size world of human services spanning issues of hunger, poverty, mental illness, the real estate market, policy, press, building maintenance, and government, to name a few. The emotional and intellectual investment goes waaaay beyond my days at Mitsubishi EDM where i took a beginning level engineering class to learn to work an EDM machine (metal cutting) or the days off-Broadway working until close to midnight at least a third of the year. There is no One Thing we're selling here. It is not a machine. It is not a play. We can't measure our success in dollars. Well, we could, but it would go against our mission and the natures of the people i work with.

But what we can do is experience true emotion from our work, sometimes sadness, sometimes joy. And i really get into that. That's not to say that NYC theatre artists don't experience it or machine tool engineer manufacturers don't (they do!), but this is a career all about people -not machines, not art. This is the work that in their twilight year retirees are referring to when they say, I'd like to volunteer somewhere and help people, or disillusioned lawyers up-and-quit their job and join the Peace Corp to be a part of. It's hard, but i like it.

Hope this bit of confessionalism isn't too off-topic for the blog. Thanks if you read this far.

On the question of illegals in supportive housing - sometimes, illegals do end up in supportive housing, which means they cannot get benefits to pay for their rent and the company housing them would either eat the cost or evict them. I would think that a company whose mission is to house the homeless would have a difficult time doing the latter.

15 comments:

marling.montenegro said...

Well thank you for taking the time to come see us and for writing on the blog!

Thursday was a really interesting day for me. Right after class I ran into a Department of Homeless Services(DHS) police officer who is training a new incoming class here in John Jay. He asked me for my name since he recognized me from the day before when I opened a door for him while I was working, and I just started asking him so many questions about his job. He works at what he describes is the worse shelter home in the city, which name I cannot remember but it is known on the streets as "Rikers 2." It is an island with buildings predominantly occupied by males and one structure for families. He said he provides "security" and makes sure "no one gets outta line." I asked him what happens when he runs into a homeless individual when he sees them on the streets and he said that he would "call the van to take them" and offer some help, but if they refused the help then they just move along.
He seemed very professional about his job, like he really enjoys it, but it was clear to me that he has disassociated himself, no longer being able to provide hope. He described his job as if he dealt with.. animals really... like the untouchables in contemporary American caste system.
I asked him about the transitional homes or any programs in the shelter that can help people get back on their feet, and it struck me when he said "it's just a waste of money. No matter how many programs you integrate, they don’t work because people are just gonna go back to the streets to do drugs."
We spoke about the phenomenon of the double revolving door these people face as they enter our prisons and exit to a state of homelessness only to be taken back in to prison, or jail. He said "it's true, I call the police on 'em myself."
As Prof. Stein observed, we throw these people into a system that dehumanizes individuals, raping them of hope and decency and forces them to be violent and then we punish them for said violence. What happens when the people that are supposed to provide care and hope can't?

amanda_moses said...

I love it when you say, “we can’t measure our success in dollars.” I feel that in life we can only measure how happy we are in doing whatever interests us. But at the same time, we have to make sure that we can take care of our basic needs (paying the bills and such.) It is a constant fear of mine, whether I should do what makes me happy even if I have to live pay check to pay check or should I sell out and become a lawyer. Sure I have an interest in human rights law, but to be the court room litigating and making bargains doesn’t exactly appeal to me. I would much rather have my arguments read on a global scope, like Darakshan Raja (the representative of the Amnesty international club who came to speak to our class prior to your visit) said “We need power in numbers.” What better way to get people to know about your arguments then using a media outlet. I am more interested in the form of work you do, which is “a career all about people.” I see that its stressful and definitely one way ticket to burn out city, but the emotional and intellectual experience would be so much more rewarding.

thanks for comming and the advice, sure to bother you with plenty of questions at some point this semester.

Danielle said...

It’s interesting that Wren named the post ‘budget season’, and that it’s made to look not-so-ominous in lower case letters. It shows a certain belief that this is one part of the job that is sort of a down, but in the face of her longer paragraphs below, the joy of this work is the bright light at the end of the budget season tunnel. I’m not usually so Freudian, but ‘BUDGET SEASON’ would have made me nervous and ‘Budget Season’ is all too “selling One Thing” like.

As Wren said, this work can’t be measured in dollars. Living in a material world, I’m tempted to be a material girl. When I’m doing well-paid research, I’m interested, but it’s so simple to get distracted…sitting in a room for hours reading literature on what’s going on “out there” will make anyone stir crazy. When I worked at Phoenix House I was unpaid but driven by my client’s urge to do something better with their lives; same feeling as I get at CEO. There’s no such thing as a nine-to-five in nonprofit work – we don’t end the day with the DOW – the New York homeless don’t sleep after 5pm in the middle of this record breaking winter and those with a criminal history need a job before they leave CEO or they may turn to illegal money making schemes to support their family (like our mothers always told us, nothing good happens outside after sundown). So we have to work harder…

The pay off is rarely experiencing the same emotion with a client twice. This work grounds you when you’re mind would otherwise be a million places; in these moments, your entire being is engage in a particular scene of your life. The pay off is also the unique form of intellectual stimulation you get from learning about yourself and the world we live in. At CEO I learn that even when the odds are stacked against you - “you do you” and take the chance for a moment to hold constructive significance in your future.

I also want to mention how important it is that we do what Wren did & that is follow up on the request to provide information (i.e. her last pp). People remember what promises we make, especially clients of nonprofit groups who are looking to build trust and find answers anywhere they can.

Neethu said...

Wren's visit last Thursday and her discussion of the different paths she has taken in life has been running through my mind all week. I keep wondering what paths I will take and where I will end up. I think for the past year or so I've been so afraid to maneuver away from the path that will lead me to the career I want to have eventually, that I've maybe neglected to undertake different experiences. But after Wren's visit, I realized that I can explore other fields while still pursuing what I want. It is interesting to hear how people ended up working at a job so different from the one they started off with. At CASES, we have two teachers, one who used to work in fashion and another who used to be an artist (and continues to be on the side). I think if you are open to exploring different options and paths in your life, it can lead you to something fulfilling and gratifying--although perhaps not gratifying for your wallet. Today as I was working in my office, I listened to Wade, who is in charge of helping clients who have finished the program find jobs, talk with the students to find out their interests and call in to different employers to find them a job. It was fascinating to hear the students various interests and their willingness and openness to try different paths. And as Wade was doing all of this, I thought how satisfying this work must be for him. To help these court involved kids, who maybe made one severe mistake, to realize their potential and their dreams and set them on a career path. Even though he isn't getting the big bucks, I don't think anyone can claim that his job isn't immensely rewarding.

Professor Reitz said...

Let me join the enthusiastic thanks to Wren for visiting class and encouraging us to take a moment and reflect on our lives this week. I have two comments, one about life choices and one, naturally, about Charles Dickens.

On the one hand, I appear to have been very committed to a particular path: straight to college (English major), straight to grad school (English lit), series of jobs teaching English, still with the guy I started dating at 18. But when I look back between those lines I see dozens of moments where nothing was certain, where I could have gone in a different direction, where I was scared to death to be making the decisions I did. What those lines don't say is that my oldest son lived in 9 different places by the time he was 9, that there were a couple years in there where I totally stepped off that path or where I did everything possible to get thrown off that path. My big take-away from this is that there are no right choices, there are only choices and then you must work your butt off to make that choice the right choice. This was an incredibly liberating realization, because I didn't have to look for signs or read tea leaves or wait for the sky to fall -- my life was in my own hands.

This week's Dickens Moment is in response to Marling's phrase about the homeless who "just move along." "Moving On" is Dickens's eloquent phrase (in his novel BLEAK HOUSE) for the whole series of social problems that we see but don't deal with, that we just move on down the road for somebody else to deal with. The pathos of the idea comes from its double-meaning: moving on can mean progress and modernity, but there are casualties. Here, Jo, a homeless orphan who gets scraps of bread by sweeping the street, is caught by the police.
"'This boy,' says the constable, 'although he's repeatedly told to, won't move on --'
'I'm always a-moving on, sir,' cries the boy, wiping away his grimy tears with his arm. 'I've always been a-moving and a-moving on, ever since I was born. Where can I possible move to, sir, more nor I do move!'"
Later Dickens ends the chapter: "And there [Jo] sits, munching and gnawing, and looking up at the great Cross on the summit of St. Paul's Cathedral, glittering above a red and violet-tinted cloud of smoke. From the boy's face one might suppose that sacred emblem to be, in his eyes, the crowning confusion of the great, confused city; so golden, so high up, so far out of his reach. There he sits, the sun going down, the river running fast, the crowd flowing by him in two streams -- everything moving on to some purpose and to one end -- until he is stirred up, and told to 'move on' too."

Lisa Chan said...

Thank you again for coming to our seminar, Wren!

Having to work on gathering information for all different types of foundations for funding HSI has made me realize the importance of the support we receive from these foundations that will in turn help carry out the mission of the organization. I'm beginning to get a little taste of what this "budget season" really means with a lot of these foundations with no definite answer as to how much they're going to fund this year. But I must admit that it feels very rewarding each time I find a funding that fits perfectly with HSI.

Wren's story about her career choices made me think about my life choices thus far. I remember after graduating high school I told myself that I was done with school forever & thought that I would somehow get married early, have kids and become a stay-at-home mom. It wasn't until my grandmother passed away that I realized that I couldn't have that as my goal and decided to go back to school. SInce then I've set out so many different paths for myself (and a few back-up plans just in case). Wrens story has helped me realize that there are a lot options out there and to just do what makes you happy.

Ana Rojas said...

Thank you Wren for your wonderful anecdotes.
I am a senior, and I could not help getting worried about my next life step. Sure, I plan to apply for law school next fall, but that still leaves me a whole year to do something worth while. And, that is my problem. I was not sure what is worth while. Should I focus in something that I personally like, or should I follow the guidelines of the law schools by doing something that'll impress them when they review my application.

After listening to Wren in class, I realized that it is okay to not know what our next step should be. It is quite fine to follow our passions while they last. They might lead us somewhere better or not. The important thing is that we venture out and experiment with life, and in the same manner life will experiment with us.

P.S.
I have to admit I have never read Dickens. Prof. Reitz you are sure sparkling my curiosity because Dickens appears to have captured life amazingly well. I guess that it is a definite must in my summer reading list.

Prof. Stein said...

My thanks to Wren for triggering this conversation.

An interesting polarity has developed in some posts around the issue of doing things for love versus for money. If Prof. Reitz can quote Darwin again, well then, I can dig up Sigmund Freud, who said:

When making a decision of minor importance, I have always found it advantageous to consider all the pros and cons. In vital matters, however, such as the choice of a mate or a profession, the decision should come from the unconscious, from somewhere within ourselves. In the important decisions of personal life, we should be governed, I think, by the deep inner needs of our nature.

Freud, being an upperclass Viennese physician, seeing patients of similar ilk, had the leisure to entertain his unconscious and the wherewithal to accede to its wishes. Following one’s dreams may be wonderful, as so many of you have said, but it has consequences, as you also recognize; the main one being economic. While it is easy to cloak the pursuit of money as mere acquisitiveness, I think it has deeper meanings (particularly for women). Speaking from personal and professional experience both, I would have to say that the degree to which adults are economically dependant on parents, spouses, or apparati of the State is the degree to which they are infantilized and made incapable of dreaming in the most creative and productive ways. Without getting into a critique of capitalism, it is clear to me that, in this neighborhood, money is empowering in numerous ways beyond what it can buy you.

Freud did not treat the homeless; it might have been much harder to convince them to allow the unconscious to rule the day. A discussion like ours underlines the invisibility of class in discussions of decision-making. I mean to call attention back to it as a reminder that, even with a roof over our heads, the autonomy and power to dream may be circumvented by economic dependence.

Professor Reitz said...

So true, Professor Freud, I mean Stein (and substituting Darwin for Dickens is a fascinating Freudian slip!), about how class is the invisible hand.

So to render class visible in my own decision-making, then: choosing to be a teacher was a choice to make less money. Choosing to marry my husband, then a law student, enabled me not to have to live with the economic reality of my decision. Choosing to marry someone who makes more money than I do means that his job has been prioritized, which means we have moved for it and I have had to adjust. But never did becoming a teacher mean that I would risk dire economic consequences, and that is important to make clear. I also agree with Professor Stein that the opposition between "following our dreams" and "making money" is a dangerous one. Many times I have been grateful that I make my own money, such as it is, when I see how many curveballs life can throw at you (death, job loss, special needs family members, etc.). There must be a Dickens quote about this somewhere...

Unknown said...

I want to echo everyone's thanks to Wren for coming to our class, for opening up the conversation in so many important and interesting directions and for sharing with us her own life journey.

Well, if Prof Reitz can bring in Dickens and Prof Stein bring in Freud, I'll once again bring in Paul Farmer! Here's a very short (1 min 31 secs) clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0C_1I5Ibr0

Among other things, he says, "...do what you like, just save a little bit of your time for activism and for social justice work....." (But listen to how he says it--much more inspiring than reading it).

I'll be very brief today--just two things:
1) Why don't we (in the seminar and in the society writ large) ever talk about real PREVENTION? What needs to be done to prevent people from becoming homeless, just for example, in the first place??!! (ditto all the other social problems we discuss at JJ). I always wonder why we don't ever get the discussion focused there.

2) my own path: it was not at all a straight line. I didn't even discover anthropology until I was in my late 20s!! Some important influences: my mother who always told me to follow my heart; and traveling--especially when I was young and without dependents (e.g., lived out of a van for one year traveling across US, Canada, Mexico without a plan; and a 3 month solo trip through Europe with a small backpack, hardly any $, one change of clothes, and again, no plan--both were life changing experiences.

M. Patino said...

Hearing Wren's account of how she entered her field was a great and enlightening experience. I for one always worry about having a direction. I have an idea of what I want to do for the rest of my life, I'm just still trying to figure out exactly how to get there. Wren and her husband both showed me how hard work can make any choice the "right choice" much like Professor Reitz stated.

Thank you very much Wren! It was great meeting you!

Katiria said...

Wren, thank you so much for coming in and inspiring us all with your extensive work and your past. Also thank you for sharing with us your journey on how you came upon working at your organization and stimulating us mentally so that we may relax our fear(s) as to deciding our career goals. I love when you said in your blog “we can’t measure our success in dollars” because unfortunately now in days, many people do this and have lost the essence of what it means to help others. Many simply decide to lead down a certain career path due to the expected large salary and benefits. Very small amounts actually decide on a career based on passion and public dedication. Thank you for responding my question on illegals and supportive housing it was helpful.

Prof. Stein said...

Hoist on my own Freudian slip!!! How apt.

marling.montenegro said...

I am so glad I came back to read this, I have to say it was quite inspiring and funny to read what the professors have to say!

Emile Lokenauth said...

It seems as if the majority of us have similar thoughts about our future. I myself am contemplating about whether or not I truly want to attend law school. Wren, during the discussion in class I must say that your words were extremely reassuring! I remember you mentioning that you and your husband are not exactly the poster children for following strict guidelines concerning career paths. It was extremely reassuring because you both are happy and are involved in projects that are fulfilling.

I agree with Amanda and ultimately believe that it is important to find a balance between what makes you happy and what pays the bills.